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Maguin, Eugene

In the near future I’m expecting work with somebody in a SAS shop so I need to develop some competence in SAS. Some folks on this list are multilingual. Could those of you that are suggest books that would hit the data management syntax pretty heavily but also with some emphasis on basic statistics sorts of procedures—frequencies, crosstabs, correlations, write/list operations. In many respects, the sas parallel to the discussion here about how would you teach spss. I’ll have access to sas itself to practice on.

 

Thanks, Gene Maguin

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Re: looking for intro, intermediate books

Rich Ulrich
I think all /you/ need on frequencies and crosstabs, etc., is a few pages of examples, which
closely parallel SPSS.   Value labels are done a bit differently.  Some transformations are
done differently.  But you mainly need examples.

When I (briefly) took up SAS a dozen years ago, a basic part was file reading - there are
non-SPSS options.  If you don't want to use them, you at least need to be aware of what you
may read from somewhere else.

The tricky part was file management, like, what to put into a single directory.  Matching and
merging files is different.

But I barely got beyond the SAS basics, myself.  Twenty years ago, the SAS discussion group
was mainly concerned with manipulating printers and output formats, since SAS was used
in a major way for "report generation" rather than for social science statistical applications.

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Rich Ulrich


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In the near future I’m expecting work with somebody in a SAS shop so I need to develop some competence in SAS. Some folks on this list are multilingual. Could those of you that are suggest books that would hit the data management syntax pretty heavily but also with some emphasis on basic statistics sorts of procedures—frequencies, crosstabs, correlations, write/list operations. In many respects, the sas parallel to the discussion here about how would you teach spss. I’ll have access to sas itself to practice on.

 

Thanks, Gene Maguin

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Re: looking for intro, intermediate books

Bruce Weaver
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Hi Gene.  Here's something I found via Google:

  https://www.lexjansen.com/nesug/nesug03/ps/ps009.pdf

I don't know how helpful it will be, but I liked the title!  ;-)  

See also this one:

  https://support.sas.com/publishing/bbu/companion_site/62272.pdf

HTH.



Maguin, Eugene wrote

> In the near future I'm expecting work with somebody in a SAS shop so I
> need to develop some competence in SAS. Some folks on this list are
> multilingual. Could those of you that are suggest books that would hit the
> data management syntax pretty heavily but also with some emphasis on basic
> statistics sorts of procedures-frequencies, crosstabs, correlations,
> write/list operations. In many respects, the sas parallel to the
> discussion here about how would you teach spss. I'll have access to sas
> itself to practice on.
>
> Thanks, Gene Maguin
>
> =====================
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Re: looking for intro, intermediate books

Jon Peck
Cute title, but
"SPSS version 11.5 seems to have an advantage over SAS version 9.0"  
suggests that the authors looked at an extremely old version of SPSS - 15 years old or so.

Another document in a somewhat comparison sense is Chapter 6 of the SPSS Programming and Data Management book, entitled IBM SPSS Statistics for SAS Programmers

 

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 3:41 PM Bruce Weaver <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Gene.  Here's something I found via Google:

  https://www.lexjansen.com/nesug/nesug03/ps/ps009.pdf

I don't know how helpful it will be, but I liked the title!  ;-) 

See also this one:

  https://support.sas.com/publishing/bbu/companion_site/62272.pdf

HTH.



Maguin, Eugene wrote
> In the near future I'm expecting work with somebody in a SAS shop so I
> need to develop some competence in SAS. Some folks on this list are
> multilingual. Could those of you that are suggest books that would hit the
> data management syntax pretty heavily but also with some emphasis on basic
> statistics sorts of procedures-frequencies, crosstabs, correlations,
> write/list operations. In many respects, the sas parallel to the
> discussion here about how would you teach spss. I'll have access to sas
> itself to practice on.
>
> Thanks, Gene Maguin
>
> =====================
> To manage your subscription to SPSSX-L, send a message to

> LISTSERV@.UGA

>  (not to SPSSX-L), with no body text except the
> command. To leave the list, send the command
> SIGNOFF SPSSX-L
> For a list of commands to manage subscriptions, send the command
> INFO REFCARD





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Re: looking for intro, intermediate books

Jeff A
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I agree with Rich. The major difference beyond the simple words/phrases used in the actual syntax commands has to do with the management of the datasets. Once you learn how to do it, it’s actually easier to use SAS to simultaneously use, open/close merge, and manipulate a larger number of datasets. I haven’t used SAS in a few years, but found that much of the written intro material doesn’t explain this well at all and it took me a good bit of experimentation to understand it. Once I had it down, I liked it, but would have been better off if I were able to find someone to show me a few tricks.

 

Jeff

 

 

 

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Rich Ulrich
Sent: Saturday, 13 April 2019 6:09 AM
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Subject: Re: looking for intro, intermediate books

 

I think all /you/ need on frequencies and crosstabs, etc., is a few pages of examples, which

closely parallel SPSS.   Value labels are done a bit differently.  Some transformations are

done differently.  But you mainly need examples.

 

When I (briefly) took up SAS a dozen years ago, a basic part was file reading - there are

non-SPSS options.  If you don't want to use them, you at least need to be aware of what you

may read from somewhere else.

 

The tricky part was file management, like, what to put into a single directory.  Matching and

merging files is different.

 

But I barely got beyond the SAS basics, myself.  Twenty years ago, the SAS discussion group

was mainly concerned with manipulating printers and output formats, since SAS was used

in a major way for "report generation" rather than for social science statistical applications.

 

--

Rich Ulrich

 


From: SPSSX(r) Discussion <[hidden email]> on behalf of Maguin, Eugene <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 3:10 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: looking for intro, intermediate books

 

In the near future I’m expecting work with somebody in a SAS shop so I need to develop some competence in SAS. Some folks on this list are multilingual. Could those of you that are suggest books that would hit the data management syntax pretty heavily but also with some emphasis on basic statistics sorts of procedures—frequencies, crosstabs, correlations, write/list operations. In many respects, the sas parallel to the discussion here about how would you teach spss. I’ll have access to sas itself to practice on.

 

Thanks, Gene Maguin

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