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Dogan, Enis
Dear all

 

SPSS reports partial et-sq as opposed to eta-squared.

I found in the literature the rule thumb for eta-squared as small
(0.01), medium (0.06), and large (0.14) (Cohen, 1988).

Does this apply to partial eta-squared as well?

Also, the definition of eta-squared gives me the idea that it is no
different than what some of us call partial R squared.

Am I right?

 

There is rumor out there that "researchers erroneously report partial
eta-squared values as representing classical eta-squared values"

http://carbon.cudenver.edu/~haguinis/APMinpress.pdf

 

Any value in this argument?

 

Thanx

 

Enis

 
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Re: effect size: eta-squared vs partial eta-squared

Alexander J. Shackman
see also

http://web.uccs.edu/lbecker/Psy590/es.htm
and
http://web.uccs.edu/lbecker/SPSS/glm_effectsize.htm

On 7/18/06, Dogan, Enis <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Dear all
>
>
>
> SPSS reports partial et-sq as opposed to eta-squared.
>
> I found in the literature the rule thumb for eta-squared as small
> (0.01), medium (0.06), and large (0.14) (Cohen, 1988).
>
> Does this apply to partial eta-squared as well?
>
> Also, the definition of eta-squared gives me the idea that it is no
> different than what some of us call partial R squared.
>
> Am I right?
>
>
>
> There is rumor out there that "researchers erroneously report partial
> eta-squared values as representing classical eta-squared values"
>
> http://carbon.cudenver.edu/~haguinis/APMinpress.pdf
>
>
>
> Any value in this argument?
>
>
>
> Thanx
>
>
>
> Enis
>
>
>


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Re: effect size: eta-squared vs partial eta-squared

Burleson,Joseph A.
In reply to this post by Dogan, Enis
Just to clarify:

Cohen's rules of thumb that you list are for mean differences (t-tests,
etc.) translated into r-sq. But his section on correlation uses small
(r = .10, r-sq = .01), medium (r = .30, r-sq = .09), and large (r = .50,
r-sq = .25). He then rectifies these discrepancies on pp. 81-82 (in the
1977 edition, sorry--don't have the '88 at hand, but the chapter on r).

As to your question of partial et-sq and r-sq, I would be curious to any
responses since I always assumed that the interpretation of the effect
size of one would be equivalent to the other.

Joe Burleson

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Dogan, Enis
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 12:55 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: effect size: eta-squared vs partial eta-squared

Dear all



SPSS reports partial et-sq as opposed to eta-squared.

I found in the literature the rule thumb for eta-squared as small
(0.01), medium (0.06), and large (0.14) (Cohen, 1988).

Does this apply to partial eta-squared as well?

Also, the definition of eta-squared gives me the idea that it is no
different than what some of us call partial R squared.

Am I right?



There is rumor out there that "researchers erroneously report partial
eta-squared values as representing classical eta-squared values"

http://carbon.cudenver.edu/~haguinis/APMinpress.pdf



Any value in this argument?



Thanx



Enis
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Re: effect size: eta-squared vs partial eta-squared

Nicholas J.S. Gibson
In reply to this post by Dogan, Enis
A quick search on "eta" in the archives will confirm that some variant of
this question comes up pretty frequently! Unfortunately SPSS still has no
capability to report total eta-squared values or the SS values needed to
calculate total eta-squared values for mixed-model ANOVAs by hand (unless
this functionality has since been added to SPSS 14/15). When Kyle Weeks
last commented on this (Jan 2003 -- see
http://www.listserv.uga.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0301&L=spssx-l&P=R2708&m=24876 
) he said this feature was on the "wish list" but I don't know if it has
since become a reality. If someone knows of development or planned
development on this it would be useful to know about it.

Reporting partial eta-squared values would indeed be misleading given that
when summed they can exceed 1. Unfortunately without SPSS reporting total
eta-squared values it is likely that researchers do erroneously report
partial values.

Other articles on this include:

  Timothy R. Levine & Craig R. Hullett. (2002). Eta squared, partial eta
squared, and misreporting of effect size in communication research. Human
Communication Research, 28, 612-625.

  Pierce, C. A., Block, R. A., & Aguinis, H. (2004). Cautionary note on
reporting eta-squared values from multifactor ANOVA designs. Educational
and Psychological Measurement, 64, 916-924.
http://www.montana.edu/wwwpy/Block/papers/Pierce,Block,&Aguinas-2004.pdf

Nicholas Gibson

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Psychology and Religion Research Group
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West Road, Cambridge, CB3 9BS, UK

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> Date:    Tue, 18 Jul 2006 12:01:26 -0500
> From:    "Alexander J. Shackman" <[hidden email]>
>
> see also
>
> http://web.uccs.edu/lbecker/Psy590/es.htm
> and
> http://web.uccs.edu/lbecker/SPSS/glm_effectsize.htm
>
> On 7/18/06, Dogan, Enis <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Dear all
> >
> >
> >
> > SPSS reports partial et-sq as opposed to eta-squared.
> >
> > I found in the literature the rule thumb for eta-squared as small
> > (0.01), medium (0.06), and large (0.14) (Cohen, 1988).
> >
> > Does this apply to partial eta-squared as well?
> >
> > Also, the definition of eta-squared gives me the idea that it is no
> > different than what some of us call partial R squared.
> >
> > Am I right?
> >
> >
> >
> > There is rumor out there that "researchers erroneously report partial
> > eta-squared values as representing classical eta-squared values"
> >
> > http://carbon.cudenver.edu/~haguinis/APMinpress.pdf
> >
> >
> >
> > Any value in this argument?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanx
> >
> >
> >
> > Enis
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Dogan, Enis
In reply to this post by Dogan, Enis
Thanks to all who replied to my question.
Any comments on the relationship between partial-eta squared and partial
R squared?
Also eta-squared looks to me like a part R squared.
Any thoughts?

Enis



-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Nicholas J.S. Gibson
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 12:37 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: effect size: eta-squared vs partial eta-squared

A quick search on "eta" in the archives will confirm that some variant
of
this question comes up pretty frequently! Unfortunately SPSS still has
no
capability to report total eta-squared values or the SS values needed to

calculate total eta-squared values for mixed-model ANOVAs by hand
(unless
this functionality has since been added to SPSS 14/15). When Kyle Weeks
last commented on this (Jan 2003 -- see
http://www.listserv.uga.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0301&L=spssx-l&P=R2708&m=24
876
) he said this feature was on the "wish list" but I don't know if it has

since become a reality. If someone knows of development or planned
development on this it would be useful to know about it.

Reporting partial eta-squared values would indeed be misleading given
that
when summed they can exceed 1. Unfortunately without SPSS reporting
total
eta-squared values it is likely that researchers do erroneously report
partial values.

Other articles on this include:

  Timothy R. Levine & Craig R. Hullett. (2002). Eta squared, partial eta

squared, and misreporting of effect size in communication research.
Human
Communication Research, 28, 612-625.

  Pierce, C. A., Block, R. A., & Aguinis, H. (2004). Cautionary note on
reporting eta-squared values from multifactor ANOVA designs. Educational

and Psychological Measurement, 64, 916-924.
http://www.montana.edu/wwwpy/Block/papers/Pierce,Block,&Aguinas-2004.pdf

Nicholas Gibson

--
Nicholas J.S. Gibson, Ph.D.
Psychology and Religion Research Group
Faculty of Divinity, University of Cambridge
West Road, Cambridge, CB3 9BS, UK

tel +44 (0)1223 763010 * mob +44 (0)7970 757524 * fax +44 (0)1223 763003
http://www.divinity.cam.ac.uk/pcp/personnel/nicholas.html



> Date:    Tue, 18 Jul 2006 12:01:26 -0500
> From:    "Alexander J. Shackman" <[hidden email]>
>
> see also
>
> http://web.uccs.edu/lbecker/Psy590/es.htm
> and
> http://web.uccs.edu/lbecker/SPSS/glm_effectsize.htm
>
> On 7/18/06, Dogan, Enis <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Dear all
> >
> >
> >
> > SPSS reports partial et-sq as opposed to eta-squared.
> >
> > I found in the literature the rule thumb for eta-squared as small
> > (0.01), medium (0.06), and large (0.14) (Cohen, 1988).
> >
> > Does this apply to partial eta-squared as well?
> >
> > Also, the definition of eta-squared gives me the idea that it is no
> > different than what some of us call partial R squared.
> >
> > Am I right?
> >
> >
> >
> > There is rumor out there that "researchers erroneously report
partial

> > eta-squared values as representing classical eta-squared values"
> >
> > http://carbon.cudenver.edu/~haguinis/APMinpress.pdf
> >
> >
> >
> > Any value in this argument?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanx
> >
> >
> >
> > Enis
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Dale Glaser
Enis, in Keppel and Wickens (2004) the authors make a rather compelling argument against the R^2 effect size as reported in SPSS (i.e, SSa/SStotal) as opposed to omega squared, using their notation on page 164: (SSa - (a -1)MS s/a)/(SStotal + MS s/a)..they comment that omega squared "takes the sampling variability into account and so is most relevant to the population you are studying" (p. 167) and that, in their opinion, r^2 (which statistically can be shown) tends to inflate the variation accounted for.....however, SPSS does not report omega squared so one would need to hand calculate this estimate

  Keppel, G., & Wickens, T. D.  (2004).  Design and analysis. (4th Ed.).  Upper Saddle River, NJ: Pearson.

"Dogan, Enis" <[hidden email]> wrote:
  Thanks to all who replied to my question.
Any comments on the relationship between partial-eta squared and partial
R squared?
Also eta-squared looks to me like a part R squared.
Any thoughts?

Enis



-----Original Message-----
From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Nicholas J.S. Gibson
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 12:37 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: effect size: eta-squared vs partial eta-squared

A quick search on "eta" in the archives will confirm that some variant
of
this question comes up pretty frequently! Unfortunately SPSS still has
no
capability to report total eta-squared values or the SS values needed to

calculate total eta-squared values for mixed-model ANOVAs by hand
(unless
this functionality has since been added to SPSS 14/15). When Kyle Weeks
last commented on this (Jan 2003 -- see
http://www.listserv.uga.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0301&L=spssx-l&P=R2708&m=24
876
) he said this feature was on the "wish list" but I don't know if it has

since become a reality. If someone knows of development or planned
development on this it would be useful to know about it.

Reporting partial eta-squared values would indeed be misleading given
that
when summed they can exceed 1. Unfortunately without SPSS reporting
total
eta-squared values it is likely that researchers do erroneously report
partial values.

Other articles on this include:

Timothy R. Levine & Craig R. Hullett. (2002). Eta squared, partial eta

squared, and misreporting of effect size in communication research.
Human
Communication Research, 28, 612-625.

Pierce, C. A., Block, R. A., & Aguinis, H. (2004). Cautionary note on
reporting eta-squared values from multifactor ANOVA designs. Educational

and Psychological Measurement, 64, 916-924.
http://www.montana.edu/wwwpy/Block/papers/Pierce,Block,&Aguinas-2004.pdf

Nicholas Gibson

--
Nicholas J.S. Gibson, Ph.D.
Psychology and Religion Research Group
Faculty of Divinity, University of Cambridge
West Road, Cambridge, CB3 9BS, UK

tel +44 (0)1223 763010 * mob +44 (0)7970 757524 * fax +44 (0)1223 763003
http://www.divinity.cam.ac.uk/pcp/personnel/nicholas.html



> Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 12:01:26 -0500
> From: "Alexander J. Shackman"
>
> see also
>
> http://web.uccs.edu/lbecker/Psy590/es.htm
> and
> http://web.uccs.edu/lbecker/SPSS/glm_effectsize.htm
>
> On 7/18/06, Dogan, Enis wrote:
> >
> > Dear all
> >
> >
> >
> > SPSS reports partial et-sq as opposed to eta-squared.
> >
> > I found in the literature the rule thumb for eta-squared as small
> > (0.01), medium (0.06), and large (0.14) (Cohen, 1988).
> >
> > Does this apply to partial eta-squared as well?
> >
> > Also, the definition of eta-squared gives me the idea that it is no
> > different than what some of us call partial R squared.
> >
> > Am I right?
> >
> >
> >
> > There is rumor out there that "researchers erroneously report
partial

> > eta-squared values as representing classical eta-squared values"
> >
> > http://carbon.cudenver.edu/~haguinis/APMinpress.pdf
> >
> >
> >
> > Any value in this argument?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanx
> >
> >
> >
> > Enis
> >
> >
> >
>
>



Dale Glaser, Ph.D.
Principal--Glaser Consulting
Lecturer--SDSU/USD/CSUSM/AIU
4003 Goldfinch St, Suite G
San Diego, CA 92103
phone: 619-220-0602
fax: 619-220-0412
email: [hidden email]
website: www.glaserconsult.com
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Re: effect size: eta-squared vs partial eta-squared

Marta García-Granero
Hi

DG> Enis, in Keppel and Wickens (2004) the authors make a rather
DG> compelling argument against the R^2 effect size as reported in
DG> SPSS (i.e, SSa/SStotal) as opposed to omega squared, using their
DG> notation on page 164: (SSa - (a -1)MS s/a)/(SStotal + MS
DG> s/a)..they comment that omega squared "takes the sampling
DG> variability into account and so is most relevant to the population
DG> you are studying" (p. 167) and that, in their opinion, r^2 (which
DG> statistically can be shown) tends to inflate the variation
DG> accounted for.....however, SPSS does not report omega squared so
DG> one would need to hand calculate this estimate

DG>   Keppel, G., & Wickens, T. D.  (2004).  Design and analysis.
DG> (4th Ed.).  Upper Saddle River, NJ: Pearson.

My contribution:

* See http://web.uccs.edu/lbecker/SPSS/glm_effectsize.htm *.

* Example dataset *.
DATA LIST FREE/iv(F8.0) dv(F8.1).
BEGIN DATA
1 7.5 1 6.2 1 6.9 1 7.4 1 9.2 1 8.3 1 7.6
2 5.8 2 7.3 2 8.2 2 7.1 2 7.8 2 7.2 2 7.3
3 5.9 3 6.2 3 5.8 3 4.7 3 7.3 3 7.2 3 6.2
4 6.2 4 6.8 4 5.7 4 4.9 4 6.2 4 5.8 4 5.4
END DATA.
VALUE LABEL iv 1'NonSmoker' 2'ExSmoker' 3'Smoke<1' 4'Smoke>1'.
VAR LABEL iv 'Smoking status during pregnancy' dv'Baby weight (pounds)'.

MATRIX.
PRINT /TITLE='OMEGA-SQUARE & ETA-SQUARE IN ONEWAY ANOVA'.
GET data /VAR = iv dv /MISSING = OMIT.
COMPUTE n = CSUM(DESIGN(data(:,1))).
COMPUTE k = NCOL(n).
COMPUTE kn=NROW(data).
COMPUTE gsum = T(data(:,2))*DESIGN(data(:,1)).
COMPUTE gsum2= T(data(:,2)&**2)*DESIGN(data(:,1)).
COMPUTE mean = gsum/n.
COMPUTE variance = (gsum2-(gsum&**2)/n)/(n-1).
COMPUTE Iroof = RSUM(gsum2).
COMPUTE Aroof = RSUM((gsum&**2)/n).
COMPUTE Troof = (RSUM(gsum))&**2/kn.
COMPUTE SSE = Aroof - Troof.
COMPUTE MSE = SSE/(k-1).
COMPUTE SSw = Iroof - Aroof.
COMPUTE MSw = SSw/(kn-k).
COMPUTE SST = Iroof - Troof.
COMPUTE Ftest = MSE/MSw.
COMPUTE Fsig = (1-FCDF(Ftest,k-1,kn-k)).
COMPUTE omega2 = (SSE - (k-1)*MSw)/(SST+MSw).
COMPUTE eta2 = SSE/SST.
COMPUTE meann = k/MSUM(1/n).
COMPUTE fvalue=SQRT(Ftest/meann).
PRINT {T(mean),T(SQRT(variance)),T(n)}
 /FORMAT='F8.2'
 /CLABEL='Mean','SD','N'
 /RLABEL='No fuma','Ex-Fuma','Fuma<1','Fuma>1'
 /TITLE='Descriptive statistics'.
PRINT {Ftest,Fsig}
 /FORMAT='F8.4'
 /CLABEL='F','Sig.'
 /TITLE='ANOVA test'.
PRINT {eta2;omega2;fvalue}
 /FORMAT='F8.3'
 /RLABEL='Eta²','Omega²','f'
 /TITLE='Measures of effect size for ONEWAY ANOVA'.
END MATRIX.

* Using UNIANOVA *.
UNIANOVA
  dv  BY iv
  /PRINT = DESCRIPTIVE ETASQ
  /DESIGN = iv .

* Example dataset *.
DATA LIST LIST/control zone1 zone2 zone3.
BEGIN DATA
15.0 17.9 16.5 16.7
23.5 26.5 35.4 34.1
20.1 45.2 22.6 20.2
26.1 39.1 33.4 30.6
26.5 35.2 37.6 30.1
19.4 35.1 30.4 24.6
16.4 31.8 23.2 20.1
21.1 21.4 20.8 18.4
19.8 33.1 29.4 24.3
17.4 31.1 28.4 29.6
END DATA.

MATRIX.
PRINT /TITLE='OMEGA-SQUARE, ETA-SQUARE & PARTIAL ETA-SQUARE FOR RM ANOVA'.
GET data /VAR=ALL /NAME=gnames.
COMPUTE b = NROW(data).
COMPUTE k = NCOL(data).
COMPUTE Iroof = MSSQ(data).
COMPUTE Aroof = RSUM((CSUM(data))&**2/b).
COMPUTE Broof = CSUM((RSUM(data))&**2/k).
COMPUTE Troof = (MSUM(data)&**2)/(b*k).
COMPUTE SSE = Aroof - Troof.
COMPUTE MSE = SSE/(k-1).
COMPUTE SSB = Broof - Troof.
COMPUTE SST = Iroof - Troof.
COMPUTE SSw = SST - SSE - SSB.
COMPUTE MSw = SSE/((b-1)*(k-1)).
COMPUTE Ftest = MSE/MSw.
COMPUTE Fsig = (1-FCDF(Ftest,k-1,(k-1)*(b-1))).
COMPUTE omega2 = (SSE - (k-1)*MSw)/(SST+MSw).
COMPUTE eta2 = SSE/SST.
COMPUTE pareta2 = SSE/(SSE+SSw).
PRINT {CSUM(data)/b;SQRT((CSSQ(data)-(CSUM(data)&**2/b))/(b-1))}
 /FORMAT='F8.4'
 /CNAMES=gnames
 /RLABEL='Mean','SD'
 /TITLE='Descriptive statistics'.
PRINT {Ftest,Fsig}
 /FORMAT='F8.4'
 /CLABEL='F','Sig.'
 /TITLE='ANOVA for Within Subjects Factor'.
PRINT {omega2;eta2;pareta2}
 /FORMAT='F8.4'
 /RLABEL='Omega²','Eta²','Eta²Part'
 /TITLE='Measures of effect size for Within Subjects Factor'.
END MATRIX.

* Using UNIANOVA *.
VARSTOCASES /ID = id
 /MAKE trans1 FROM control zone1 zone2 zone3
 /INDEX = index1(trans1)
 /KEEP =
 /NULL = KEEP.
UNIANOVA
  trans1  BY index1 id
  /RANDOM = id
  /METHOD = SSTYPE(3)
  /INTERCEPT = EXCLUDE
  /PRINT = ETASQ
  /DESIGN = index1 id .



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SPSS vs. SAS for n = 1 at level 1 for mixed model

Dale Glaser
I have a multilevel dataset with quite a few singletons, i.e, level one units with n = 1; I believe that all of the level 2 units will be kept for the fixed effects analysis, but this would not be the case for the estimation of the variance components.  A colleague commented that in regards to SAS MIXED....."SAS probably addresses this issue by excluding "effects" (which are confounded across levels) when estimating sample- and group-level variances".   However, I use SPSS mixed model and HLM6.0 and I wanted to see if anyone on this listserv knew if SPSS and/or HLM handle singletons (n =1 at level 1) statistically in the same way as SAS?....thank you very much for any help......Dale


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4003 Goldfinch St, Suite G
San Diego, CA 92103
phone: 619-220-0602
fax: 619-220-0412
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