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SPSS Statistics 25 crosstab

Lombardo, Barbara
Crosstabs is no longer including system missing fields for numeric fields, completely ignores them.  How do I turn this back on??
Crosstab a text field with a numeric and it leaves out all system missing without a warning message.



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Re: SPSS Statistics 25 crosstab

Jon Peck
AFAIK, system missing values have never been included in a crosstabs table.  I currently have V24 and 25 installed, and neither shows them.  However, the Case Processing Table that precedes the crosstab table does show the count and percentage of these missing values.

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Lombardo, Barbara <[hidden email]> wrote:
Crosstabs is no longer including system missing fields for numeric fields, completely ignores them.  How do I turn this back on??
Crosstab a text field with a numeric and it leaves out all system missing without a warning message.



Barbara Lombardo

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Re: SPSS Statistics 25 crosstab

Bruce Weaver
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Like Jon, I don't remember CROSSTABS ever including missing values.  If you
want to include them, I think you'll have to recode SYSMIS to some numeric
value (e.g., 999), and omit the MISSING VALUES command that would normally
follow.  You may want to include ADD VALUE LABELS though, to assign a
"Missing" label .  


Jon Peck wrote
> AFAIK, system missing values have never been included in a crosstabs
> table.  I currently have V24 and 25 installed, and neither shows them.
> However, the Case Processing Table that precedes the crosstab table does
> show the count and percentage of these missing values.
>
> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Lombardo, Barbara &lt;

> BLombardo@

> &gt;
> wrote:
>
>> Crosstabs is no longer including system missing fields for numeric
>> fields,
>> completely ignores them.  How do I turn this back on??
>> Crosstab a text field with a numeric and it leaves out all system missing
>> without a warning message.
>>
>>
>>
>> Barbara Lombardo
>>
>> Institutional Research
>> Camden County College
>> Blackwood NJ 08012
>> Office: 856-374-4961
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Re: SPSS Statistics 25 crosstab

John F Hall
In CROSSTABS, for user missing values, you can always use:

cro varx by vary /missing inc.

. . but this doesn't get round sysmis

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Like Jon, I don't remember CROSSTABS ever including missing values.  If you want to include them, I think you'll have to recode SYSMIS to some numeric value (e.g., 999), and omit the MISSING VALUES command that would normally follow.  You may want to include ADD VALUE LABELS though, to assign a "Missing" label .  


Jon Peck wrote
> AFAIK, system missing values have never been included in a crosstabs
> table.  I currently have V24 and 25 installed, and neither shows them.
> However, the Case Processing Table that precedes the crosstab table
> does show the count and percentage of these missing values.
>
> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Lombardo, Barbara &lt;

> BLombardo@

> &gt;
> wrote:
>
>> Crosstabs is no longer including system missing fields for numeric
>> fields, completely ignores them.  How do I turn this back on??
>> Crosstab a text field with a numeric and it leaves out all system
>> missing without a warning message.
>>
>>
>>
>> Barbara Lombardo
>>
>> Institutional Research
>> Camden County College
>> Blackwood NJ 08012
>> Office: 856-374-4961
>> Fax:    856-374-5016
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Re: SPSS Statistics 25 crosstab

Art Kendall
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If I recall correctly even back in 1972  system missing was not included in
crosstabs.
I strongly suggest that you that you clean and prepare your data before you
do runs for analysis.


It is good practice to reserve sysmis for what it was designed for-- to have
a signal when the system is unable to follow your instructions. Redraft your
syntax until you have labelled all missing values, etc.

Why is your data missing? When you know why a value is missing it is user
missing.

You can have many user missing values with labels.
for many variables negative values are outside the legitimate range of
values so you could do something like
Missing values myvar (low thru -1).
add value labels myvar
 -1 "not applicable"
 -2 "paper not readable"
 -3 "test eqpt failed"
 -4 "refused to answer"
 . . .

another example when legitimate values go up 5 places before the decimal
point is to use 6 digits
Missing values myvar (100000 thru hi).
add value labels myvar
 100000 "not applicable"
 100001 "refused to answer"
 100002 "page not printed on form"
. . .




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